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October 31, 2019 By Richard Bowen

LA VERDAD INTERNACIONAL… │The Whistleblowers and Justice

Screenshot of split screen from interview with Juan Carlos Salcedo on the left and Louis Clark on the right.
Juan Carlos Salcedo interviews Louis Clark for La Verdad Internacional. Entrevista en español.

The Siscriscom Network broadcasts TV programs internationally through its affiliated TV stations, cable and satellite networks, as well as through syndications. A featured prime time program is La Verdad Internacional, a weekly syndicated international affairs show that is broadcast throughout South America, many cities in the U.S. and now Africa. Their mission is to educate their viewers on the most important issues regarding the need for truth, integrity and ethical behavior, both personal as well as in business, and they are currently televising an interview series on Whistleblowers and Justice.

The interviews were originally aired in Spanish on their stations and network, as well as Bronxnet, a cable program throughout the Bronx, New York. The interviews will also be aired in English. Louis Clark, CEO of the Government Accountability Project (GAP), one of the oldest and foremost whistleblower advocates in the world, and I were both interviewed on our views about whistleblowing.

In an era where whistleblowers are considered pariahs and are often persecuted by both business and increasingly by government it was an honor to be a part of both these segments.

In the segment with Louis, which focuses on the process of whistleblowing and how GAP works to assist whistleblowers, Carlos “Pocho” Salcedo, Correspondent and Field Producer for Siscriscom, had this to say, “The importance of whistleblowers and their protection is evident that this is an essential element to the adequate functioning of democracy and an indispensable tool to fight corruption and misuse of power.

“Whether this in the private or public sector, the stance of society and the legal system should be of protection to the whistleblower. In the vast majority of cases whistleblowers are men and women who put themselves at significant risk to improve life in their societies.”

Louis talked about some of the whistleblower cases they work on, from the World Bank to the incredible cases of abuse going on at our US Mexico borders, and how staff gives them information to try to alleviate these abuses.

He talked about what whistleblowers need to think about before blowing the whistle. He advised: Tell your family and friends what you intend to do and why.

He warned, some should not take this step because just getting through this process in a healthy way is incredibly stressful, you are treated as a pariah. Whistleblowers may not know whom they can trust, some people who might appear to be their friends at work will shun them to protect themselves.

And he said to take heart, former friends and colleagues, under oath, will not lie to protect their bosses.

Screenshot of split-screen interview with Juan Carlos Salcedo on the left and Richard M. Bowen on the right.
Juan Carlos Salcedo interviews Richard M. Bowen for La Verdad Internacional. Entrevista en español.

Carlos asked me – How important was having support legally?

I responded with the necessity of seeking legal counsel first before even saying anything. I’d been whistleblowing for 18 months before I got legal counsel. I mentioned how indebted I was to GAP for their support and counsel. I learned not all are on your side.

GAP and Louis in particular are incredible people with no hidden agenda. They instilled in me the confidence to move forward. I knew they had my back and I knew I could survive.

The full segment in which I appeared focused on the Citigroup story and what I did to contribute to justice through whistleblowing. We talked about the $350 billion Citigroup bailout by the government and the $24 trillion cost to our country and how this has impacted the economy worldwide.

With my 35 years of banking experience, with continued warnings to Citigroup that 60%, rising to 80%, of their mortgages that they were selling to other organizations were defective, while guaranteeing these were of good quality even though they did not meet approved guidelines, is still a conundrum. I had no choice but to blow the whistle. I brought my case to the SEC of the Citi fraud three months before the bank bailouts, and the SEC buried and locked up my testimony. And the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission did basically the same when I provided later testimony to them. (Entrevista en español)

Yet as Carlos and I discussed, whistleblowing has a price, loss of job, income and health, and in many cases, you become branded as a snitch, you’re an outcast. We (whistleblowers) learn our lesson, there is no accountability, and the banks learned that there is no downside, that the government will pick up the tab and if there is a profit it goes into the bank’s pockets.

Pocho asked me, what do you wish you knew then that you learned at the end of this journey?

My response was … get good legal help. I finally found GAP after many mistakes. Go to the outside sooner, seek advice, and understand that if you do blow the whistle you are probably going to blow up your career.

Pocho said, “All of us have benefited in some way by men and women who dared to blow the whistle on wrongdoing, violations of the law on health, the economy, security and the essential rights of citizens. These whistleblowers of all ages and backgrounds put at risk their employment, their safety, and are subject in many cases to legal action and pressure from employees and governments. The attacks can begin immediately, and complaints of the company against the whistleblowers are typically made public and last for years.”

It has never been more dangerous to be a whistleblower, if you see something say something, do the right thing, However, there is a price to pay.

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Tagged With: #2big2fail, Citigroup, Financial Crisis, Juan Carlos Salcedo, La Verdad Internacional, Louis Clark, whistleblowing

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Richard Bowen is widely known as the Citigroup whistleblower. As Business Chief Underwriter for Citigroup during the housing bubble financial crisis meltdown, he repeatedly warned Citi executive management and the board about fraudulent behavior within the organization. The company certified poor mortgages as quality mortgages and sold them to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and other investors.

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William D. Cohan"Richard Bowen is one of my heroes. His is a story of human fortitude at its best and Wall Street at its worst."

~ William D. Cohan, NY Times Best Selling Author
2017-06-30T10:08:59-05:00
"Richard Bowen is one of my heroes. His is a story of human fortitude at its best and Wall Street at its worst." ~ William D. Cohan, NY Times Best Selling Author
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Eileen McDonnell"Richard Bowen reinforced my motto that "there is no right way to do a wrong thing.” Long after his presentation, the conversation has continued about personal responsibility and the courage to challenge things that appear to be wrong. We encourage this dialog and rely on it to help make our business stronger."

~ Eileen McDonnell, Chairman, CEO, & President, Penn Mutual
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"Richard Bowen reinforced my motto that "there is no right way to do a wrong thing.” Long after his presentation, the conversation has continued about personal responsibility and the courage to challenge things that appear to be wrong. We encourage this dialog and rely on it to help make our business stronger." ~ Eileen McDonnell, Chairman, CEO, & President, Penn Mutual
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Ben Stein"Richard Bowen, you are a star and a hero."

~ Ben Stein, Economist and Political Commentator
2015-02-13T19:50:26-06:00
"Richard Bowen, you are a star and a hero." ~ Ben Stein, Economist and Political Commentator
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Jim Farrell"Richard's speech at the April Financial Executives International dinner was informative, interesting, riveting, and fast moving.  The feedback from members was overwhelming positive, and Richard received one of the few standing ovations given by our membership."

~ Jim Farrell, Program Chairman, Dallas Chapter, Financial Executives International
2014-12-28T19:48:17-06:00
"Richard's speech at the April Financial Executives International dinner was informative, interesting, riveting, and fast moving.  The feedback from members was overwhelming positive, and Richard received one of the few standing ovations given by our membership." ~ Jim Farrell, Program Chairman, Dallas Chapter, Financial Executives International
https://richardmbowen.com/testimonials/532/

Dennis McCuistion"Richard Bowen has been there, done that, and has the scars to prove it, and his message of corruption at the highest levels of industry and government needs to be heard. I only wish that more bankers had the courage that Bowen exhibits. He is not only one of the most talented bankers I have ever met, he has more integrity than all the bankers on Wall Street put together. If his former employer had listened to him taxpayers would not have had to bail out Citi for the third time in the last 30 years."

~ Dennis McCuistion, Host of the McCuistion TV program
2014-12-28T19:48:06-06:00
"Richard Bowen has been there, done that, and has the scars to prove it, and his message of corruption at the highest levels of industry and government needs to be heard. I only wish that more bankers had the courage that Bowen exhibits. He is not only one of the most talented bankers I have ever met, he has more integrity than all the bankers on Wall Street put together. If his former employer had listened to him taxpayers would not have had to bail out Citi for the third time in the last 30 years." ~ Dennis McCuistion, Host of the McCuistion TV program
https://richardmbowen.com/testimonials/533/

Betty Garrett"Richard Bowen is a dynamic, entertaining speaker and story-teller - a CPA with a great personality!"

~ Betty Garrett, Garrett Speakers International
2014-12-28T19:47:50-06:00
"Richard Bowen is a dynamic, entertaining speaker and story-teller - a CPA with a great personality!" ~ Betty Garrett, Garrett Speakers International
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fred-timmons"I believe Richard Bowen is the only keynote speaker to ever receive a standing ovation from the Texas Society of CPA’s at any of its annual conferences."

~ Fred Timmons, Chairman of The Texas Society of CPA's
2014-12-28T19:47:22-06:00
"I believe Richard Bowen is the only keynote speaker to ever receive a standing ovation from the Texas Society of CPA’s at any of its annual conferences." ~ Fred Timmons, Chairman of The Texas Society of CPA's
https://richardmbowen.com/testimonials/530/

"The most emotional and impactful session was absolutely Richard Bowen and the Citi Mortgage case. I was somewhat aware of the challenges and hardships faced by whistleblowers. The HBR case and documentary on Sherry Hunt's experience provided a strong understanding of the case and overall situation. However, the nuance and emotion that Bowen brought in his lecture will be one of my lasting memories of the program. His unique perspective of the exhausting experience of constantly trying to do the right thing only to be stonewalled by his leadership, and later, the US government, highlights the challenges of doing the right thing, yet the importance of someone speaking up. Bowen made whistleblowing personal to us, and I will never forget his quote that if you see wrongdoing, you have two choices, "say something or get out." Taking a stand will have an enduring impact on your career and life regardless of the outcome. It certainly causes me to prioritize selecting the right corporate culture in my future organizations."

~ EMBA student review after Richard spoke to the class

2024-09-25T16:10:48-05:00
"The most emotional and impactful session was absolutely Richard Bowen and the Citi Mortgage case. I was somewhat aware of the challenges and hardships faced by whistleblowers. The HBR case and documentary on Sherry Hunt's experience provided a strong understanding of the case and overall situation. However, the nuance and emotion that Bowen brought in his lecture will be one of my lasting memories of the program. His unique perspective of the exhausting experience of constantly trying to do the right thing only to be stonewalled by his leadership, and later, the US government, highlights the challenges of doing the right thing, yet the importance of someone speaking up. Bowen made whistleblowing personal to us, and I will never forget his quote that if you see wrongdoing, you have two choices, "say something or get out." Taking a stand will have an enduring impact on your career and life regardless of the outcome. It certainly causes me to prioritize selecting the right corporate culture in my future organizations." ~ EMBA student review after Richard spoke to the class
https://richardmbowen.com/testimonials/4629/

Presentation Topics

Playing for High Stakes: The Principles and Practice of Ethical Leadership

Dark Citi: The Story of a Whistleblower

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